Dark Star are sitting in a small room, with a small tartan sofa and a couple of wooden chairs... and some random bike someone's put there. It's also jammed packed with CDs.


Chapter One: What's New?

Suyina: OK, I have some questions here... but I probably won't stick to them.

Laurence: That's all right then 'cause we do that too.

Suyina: Right, I have to talk about the new tracks. What are they called?

Bic: There's one called 'The Last Thing She Ever Said', 'Roman Road', 'Three Seconds' and the other one hasn't got a title but we call it 'Clicky'.

Suyina: Yeah, I saw that on the play list... it's very good. So are you doing a new album?

Bic: Yeah, we're going in on Monday to start recording. We're doing two weeks, which is just the preliminary bit, to start recording ...and we're going to do a few of those tracks and see how they come out.

Suyina: Have you thought of any names for the album?

Bic: There's no more names than that. But we're going in for two weeks and probably come out with three tracks... but we're planning on maybe doing a few dates in December.

Suyina: Right...

Bic: We're doing this bit and then maybe doing some live stuff later... but we're not sure yet...

David: We don't really know what kind of a record we're going to be making this time...

Bic: It's really an experiment this two weeks.

Laurence: We'll know more after that.


Chapter Two:
The Magic Glowing Jesus

Suyina: Do you have any tour mascots?

Bic: Erm....no.

David: Magic glowing Jesus!

Bic: Yeah, there's a magic glowing Jesus and a shiny Buddha. I've got a model of the Eifel Tower but it never seems to be put out there, and you've (Laurence) got a globe.

Laurence: Yeah, the globe is there.

David: In fact Ian is our mascot, he's at every gig.

Suyina: He's your roadie isn't he?

Bic: He's our tour manager now, he got promoted. But don't worry, it won't last long.

Laurence: He's our mumbler. He mumbles for us... when we forget how to.

Bic: He's our test pilot.

David: He is. His father's actually a test pilot...


Chapter Three: Remixed

Suyina: What is your favourite remix?

Bic: Mine personally is the one that hasn't been out yet, it's the Black Star Liner remix of Graceadelica.

Suyina: And that's the one that's going to be released?

Bic: Yeah, it should be released this one, on December the 6th (now Febuary 3rd). With the Danny Saber remix. You probably haven't heard that one but it will be out and it's er called the Leopard Lounge, that's my favourite... What's your one? (looks at Dave)

David: I reckon my one's got to be... I don't know... I like the I Am The Sun one; Overseers.

Bic: Yeah, that's good.

Laurence: For me... erm... I like the Leopard Lounge one a lot, I also like the other Graceadelica one he did...

Bic: Yeah, that's coming out, they're all out in one way or another.

David: I just want to get the Kevin Shields one, that's what I want!

Laurence: You'll get that one about 10 years later. (small and mumbled conversation on Kevin Shields)

Laurence: Sorry, we digress... Why would you want to dye cress for? (erm..not sure, but I do remember making egg-heads which were egg shells with cress for hair... suppose you wanted to make one that was the splitting image of Chris Evans..?? Anyway...)


Chapter Four: Old Music Vs Contemporary stuff

Suyina: What contemporary music do you listen to at the moment?

Laurence: Good question...

(from now on, S= Suyina, B = Bic, D= David and L= Laurence...you get the picture...)

D: Make Up.

B: Erm... I'm just thinking... I don't really like that much contemporary stuff.

D: We went to see The Flaming Lips last night.

B: Was it any good?

D: It was just a bit too vague for me, I think last night I just wanted to...

B: (With dodgy American rock star voice) You wanted to RAWK!

D: I wanted something a bit more meaty... As soon as they came on I knew they'd do the same show because it's so tied, they're tied very much to a sync, a visual...

S: Did they do that kind of projector thing?

L: The camera on the mic stand?

D: Yeah. The first time I saw them at the Leeds gig as when we played, when we played there, it was such a beautiful antidote to all that wanky f***ing rock that was on that day, it was just really great.

B: Yeah, I'm just trying to think of what I've liked recently... nothing I don't think ...I'm a bit...

L: How about you? What's good?

S: errr...

L: We turn to people like you to tell us actually.

S: (laughs) erm..nothing really really new... but um... the new Sneaker Pimps album is really good.

B: Is it? That's interesting 'cause...

S: It's quite different from the last album.

B: They've got a new singer haven't they?

S: Yeah, well he was in the band all along, they got rid of the female lead singer.

B: Yeah, I'd like to check that out 'cause I saw a bit of them on TV and and it looked interesting. They had a little programme on them... He looks really weird doesn't he that man? He reminds me a bit like Crispin Gray ...not very much, but he has the same sort of structure...

D: Out of Queen Adreena.

B: That's another band we want to see, Queen Adreena... I haven't seen them yet. I reckon they're gonna be great...

D: I mean it's a bit weird, 'cause like I've bought quite a lot of contemporary stuff... I'm in the record shop all the time looking at stuff...

B: And he comes and shows all this stuff to us and we go "It's rubbish!!" ...ha! (everyone laughs)

D: I think at the moment all I'm listening to is Scott 3 and Scott 4 by Scott Walker and I just can't... and Syd Barret... and that's about it, I can't really listen to anything else!

B: The most recent thing I've listened to actually is I think The Evil Superstars last album. They're a Belgian band who have just split up which is really unfortunate and one of them's joined Deus but umm... their album 'Groovy Children' is excellent.


Chapter Five: Studio Vs Touring

S: Have you anymore tours planned at the moment?

B: No, but in December possibly we'll do a couple of dates but it's looking unlikely. To be honest we've done a lot of touring and we really want to get in and do this record. And if we get tied up in that, we're just going to carry on doing that, but it'd be nice to do something in December around Christmas, maybe a one off show and make it into some sort of party afterwards... that's what we've been thinking... but there's no plans... we're really concentrating on this studio thing at the moment so... I think we'll do one more gig before the end of the year. It seems a bit... I wouldn't want to leave it at that.

D: Personally... I was going around it last night and I was like... lets not do one... but I was like...

B: That's cause you were tired.

D: Yeah, I was a bit tired... and emotional. I had an argument with my girlfriend... and it was all too much "ahhhhh, just leave the band!" go on and get the 909...


Chapter Six: Dave's Sleeves

L: (to Dave) What's happened to your sleeve?!? (Dave at this point has his hands covered in his sleeves.)

D: What?

B & L: He's gone all indie! <mass laughter>

L: (to dave) You're getting a bit of a forehead there son!

D: Hang on a minute, hang on a minute... Just because you've managed to tassel your hair over your...

L: Bobby Charlton style!


Chapter Seven: "It's the worst Millennium I've ever had!"

S: Erm....soooo....anything planned for the Millennium then?

Band: nah/no. (and other words to that effect)

L: We're going to avoid the millennium (by hiding in a time bubble, thus defying the ageing process..Good idea, I like it..)

D: I want to work in the bar, to get a bit of cash! <Bic goes hysterical>

D: I wouldn't mind working to get a bit of money, but I wish we could play. I'd like to do that f***ing Manic Street Preacher's gig and blow the f***king wankers to shit!

L: What, you'd blow the Manic Street Preachers?!? You're weird...

D: Yeah I would! Hahaha...! (Dave sticks his pinkie in his mouth in the Style of 'Dr Evil' "..and I want one meeeeeeeeeeelion dollars" ...no not really...)

L: Nicky Wire's my favourite bass player. (the band then talk about how they have pictures of Nicky Wire up... but I'm told it's a bit of an 'in joke'...)

B: No erm... I think... I don't know what I'm going to do... it's one of those things that new year's is always the same... it's always last minute and then sort of either something great happens or it's really rubbish and I don't think this year is going to be any different, it's just that the expectations are a bit higher.

S: Yeah!

B: Which makes it worse!

L: "It's the worst millennium I've ever had..." <Bic laughs>


Chapter Eight: Things Going Bump In The Night...

S: Okay... well just because everyone's talking about it... have you seen the Blair Witch Project yet?

B: I haven't!

L: I haven't!

D: I have seen it...

L: Don't spoil it for us!

B: No, don't spoil it for us.

S: Do you think it's scary?

D: Yeah, I think it's really scary.

S: Do you?

D: Yeah, I think it's an odd type of scary even though it's got that sense of deprivation... in the sense...

L: Yeah but you're scary!

D: ...in the way that it's all wobbly...

B: Yeah but he's not as scary as the Blair Witch.

D: No I'm not...

L: But you're wobbly... <Bic laughs>

D: Go in the corner and stand facing the wall!

B: Okay!

D: ...and then the Blair Witch will...

B: LALALALALALALA! (covering his ears in the hope that he can't hear what Dave is about to tell him about the movie...)

D: <carrying on> No, it's kind of.. it's just the *it*.

B: It!

L: It!

D: ...the inevitability of what's going to happen.

S: Yeah!

D: I mean... she's just a lunatic and you know they're going to get it... and you don't f**k with shit like that...

L: Right, can you be a bit more...

B: DON'T FUCK WITH SHIT LIKE THAT! YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN'?!? FUCK YOU!! (suddenly transforming into a Robert Deniro style 'hard-gangster')

D: (persistently carrying on) it's like...

B: YOU WANT SOMTHIN', YOU COME TO ME!

L: I remember watching something with my sister once, and Cher was in the film and she turned to the camera, well you know... talking to this character, and she had this expression and said "I've taken a lot of shit from a lot of arseholes" and my sister was watching and said "what like..."<Laurence makes the kind of hand movement you'd be making if you were receiving sausages from a sausage maker... or something...> <mass laughter>

D: ...and when they find the teeth in the twigs you know it's all over.

S: Yeah...

D: The whole compass thing is great.

S: It makes me feel a bit sick though.

B: Does it?

S: Yeah, well you know... motion sickness... the camera's really shaky

B: I find that! When I go to the cinemas and sit down at the front ...what is it that I went to see? Oh yeah, it was 'Festen'. If I sit too close to the screen I just get sick!

L: <to Dave> You love sitting close.

D: That's a brilliant film, one film... a real recommendation is 'Festen' <spells out> F E S T E N. And it's absolutely brilliant!

S: Is that a new film?

B: Yeah, well reasonably new. It was out this year.

D: It's a really really really great film, and you should go and see it because it will change people's view about cinema.

S: So...erm...what do you find scary then... in horror films?

L: Are you into scary films then?

S: Not particularly...

D: The Shining!

S: I'm doing media arts so I'm meant to be interested in this type of stuff.

L: The Shining *is* spooky... I think true horror is basically... it's the impression that it makes... 'Eraser Head' I think is a true horror film... it's not truly scary it's just imagery that you know...

B: 'Eraser Head' is a fantastic film... but the thing I find really good about that is that I think it's really funny... I mean, there are some hilarious moments because you know...just...there's one bit I know which I really like where he walks across and gets in the lift and he turns round and it's all so relentlessly miserable and there's that noise and everything, and he's just standing there, presses the button and stands there for what is an eternity , and it's like "Oh for f**ks sake doors close!" and they don't! And then just at the point where you can't bear it any longer, they close... and it's bits like that that are really brilliant. And I remember...erm...I thought I was going to be really terrified of 'The Evil Dead' and I remember watching it and thinking that it was really funny.

S: It is funny!

L: 'Dawn Of The Dead' was a good film, where they lock themselves up in the shopping centre.

S: I think that would be quite fun!

L: It's actually a commentary on consumer America ...all these zombies out of instinct still go to the shopping centre.

S: There's a random guy with a fez walking round as a zombie too.

L: It's a great film!

D: I'm going to see 'The Sixth Sense' tonight, I'm looking forward to seeing that, it's supposed to be quite good.

S: Yeah!

L: 'The Shining' is a great film.

D: 'The Shining' is a really really scary film.

B: Again the scariness in that is when you begin to realise he's just typing erm... 'all work and no play makes Jack a bell boy' that bit when it just gets to that it's like 'ohh nooo' cause you realise the depth to how bad it's become.

S: Yeah.

D: What's also scary about it is how it mirrors what's gone on... the present mirrors what's gone on in the past, do you know what I mean? Because that whole idea of haunting, the hotel is haunted and to me that's scary ...that evil carries on do you know what I mean? And that's what The Blair Witch is all about...


Chapter Nine: The Chicken Of Despair

S: So what did you think of The Exorcist, doesn't that scare you?

D: That's horrible, I wouldn't be able to see that again.

B: I saw that when I was quite young and that was really scary, I haven't seen it recently though... they've re-released it haven't they?

S: Yeah, they've been playing the adverts on the radio which aren't nice, I have to keep turning the radio off.

B: Yeah, it's stuff like that... I remember 'The Omen', Damian! That was scary when I was a kid!

D: I wouldn't open the window in my bedroom yeah, for literally 6 months because I was afraid the crow would fly in and land on the end of the bed! Because I wasn't sure whether I'd made the pact with the devil then or not, do you know what I mean? (no... not reeeallly...)

B: No, well you can never be certain.

L: It could have been the chicken of despair at the end of your bed. <Bic laughs>

L: <puts on deep voice> "It's the chicken of doom" bird of happiness long gone.

D: Again that was all ...the intensity was all heightened by all the monk chanting ...that sort of the twisting of religion the ideas of what are religious celebrations as in monks chanting and using that as a backdrop to something that is kind of gross.

L: When we were young we had Doctor Who.

D: How can you remember?

L: I can remember Doctor Who very well because...

D: No, when you were young?

L: Oh, well it was terrifying ...you see it now and of course it's hilarious but it was scary at the time.

B: Hide behind the sofa!

L: I could watch it but I couldn't listen to it because BBC radio-phonic workshop were doing all the weird spooky stuff that you never heard before and it was things like <makes weird noise> "blooop" and it was really scary.

B: The scary bit in 'The Omen' I thought was when, the most scary bit was when er... he's pissing around in the classroom and he goes "Damian!!" and starts asking him all these questions, things about history and he just keeps answering and grinning, and then he starts answering faster and faster and then he starts answering before...

L: (puts on teacher's voice) "Who in 1973 won the FA cup final?!?"

B: <laughs> and then he starts answering them before he's been asked and he keeps doing that and smiling at him and you just think 'Oh my god, that is truly terrifying!" <band then start making howling noises with the effect of being 'truly terrified'>

L: Well that was a good question wasn't it?

B: Yeah!

L: How long have you been interviewing?

S: About... erm... 15 minutes... hahaha... aaanyway...


Chapter Ten: Whilst on the subject of films...

S: So what are your favourite films of all time?

B: Of all time... 'Harrold and Maud'

D: The best bit out of 'Harold and Maud' is when he gives Maud the ring and she takes the ring and just throws it in the lake, and he goes 'why did you do that' and she goes 'so I always know where it is'

B: Yeah, so that's my favourite movie...what about you <turns to Dave>

D: That's quite difficult..erm..

B: I like that film because you can watch it over and over again and there's more and more depth in it and it's not boring

D: Erm.. I really like 'The Seventh Seal' and it's brilliant, on Scott 4 there's a song inspired by 'The Seventh Seal' and if you watch the film and then buy that album you get a full-on experience..that's really good, it's kind of playing chess with the devil

S: Yep, I've seen that, they copied that scene in 'Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure'

B: Oh did they?

S: Yeah, they started playing chess and they played things like Twister

B: <laughs>

D: There's another film, I've only ever seen it once but it was profoundly moving ..it was a thing called 'Ali Baba'

B: What about you? <to Laurence>

L: It's really difficult... the thing I've seen more times, more repeatedly than any others has been 'The Wizard Of Oz' , it's made me realise that it's an incredible film

S: I saw that the other week

L: Did you?

S: Yeah

L: I always really enjoy it, and it always makes me cry, there's always something in it that makes me go <makes a sobbing noise> 'cause then I look out the window and it ain't f***ing Kansas but erm.... Yeah, that would have to be because there are too many others...

B: Have you done that thing with 'The Dark Side Of The Moon' yet?

L: No

B: Apparently if you put 'The Dark Side Of The Moon' on at the beginning on 'The Wizard Of Oz' ...

L: ...then you've obviously had too many drugs

B: <laughs> apparently it all runs together quite nicely, there's a lot of synchronicity....I haven't done it!! I just heard about it...I don't actually know anyone who's done it

L: They had a radio programme, on Radio 2 on a Saturday ...the making of classic albums, and that was mentioned. By the members of the band, and they were laughing about it.


Chapter Eleven: "Do you sing Ray?"

L: I tell you what we're also into, we're also into comedy....obviously!

B: You have to be! Favourite comic - Bill Hicks

L: Big Train...things like that...I love 'Spaced', I'm very into 'Spaced' I think there's a new.. it's pretty f***ing obvious, there's a new wave of young British Comedians Tony Peg is super hot at the moment, I think he's brilliant.

B: I want to get hold of Michael Benton's 'Hockey Time' cause the thing what's made me laugh the most but I haven't seen it for about 15 years, no actually more...20 years...I'd love to see that again. I remember rolling around..I can remember the sketch where he's narrating and there's nothing there, it's like these big armies and you see their footprints and it's him narrating it and he's obviously insane, and he's just narrating these armies attacking each other but there's nothing there, and it's the noises he makes and the footprints appearing and things falling over in the sand ...'cause they're all in this sand pit and it's the most insane programme, and I can remember it, I think they dragged him away in the end didn't they, I don't know what happened to him

L: I think he got caught with a collection of children's shoes

B: Shoes in his attic, yeah

S: I think Mike Leigh films are really funny

B: Mike Leigh, yeah!

L: Mike Leigh is wonderful

S: I really like 'Nuts In May'

L: 'Nuts In May'?

D: I just can't sit down and watch that, it's torture..I will protest and protest until it comes off or I will...

B: It's painful!

D: ...it's just "Noooooooo!!"

B: It is painful, 'Nuts In May' is one of the most painful

L: <impersonates> "Do you sing Ray?" <band laugh>


Chapter Twelve: That Bastard Crow

S: Do you have any phobias?

B: Snakes, Dave doesn't like snakes

D: I don't like snakes but I don't get a lot of worry about it

L: Philliaphobia..I think,...I hate enthusiasm

B: <laughs>

S: Is that an actual phobia?

L: Philliaphobia..I don't know, it could be...

D: My mate's terrified of birds and I've never known anyone who is so scared...literally ..if you see those pigeons over there on the roofs, he would cross the road, he can't stand it..it's really weird..

S: I don't like it if they fly over my head 'cause I know they'll drop something on me

B: I got attacked by a crow once, and that was really unpleasant ...but I'm not frightened of birds though (That bastard crow..I suppose?)

L: I like birds...there's another good film...I don't like flying...

S: You're scared of flying?

L: Genuinely

B: Yeah, he's a bit flying-phobic and I'm a bit aquaphobic, I don't like water very much, I don't like the sea

S: Have you seen that new film like 'Jaws'?

B: I don't mind films about it, I just don't like going over the sea in boats..I just don't like it

S: What about bridges that go over water

D: No I don't like not being able to see land ...I don't like that idea very much, I'm very much a land person.

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